Comments on: God is a Murderer http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/ A collection of thoughts on the lie that is religion. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:06:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Greta Horner http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4600 Greta Horner Thu, 27 May 2010 02:39:54 +0000 http://www.godispretend.net/?p=53#comment-4600 You have done it again! Superb post. You have done it again! Superb post.

]]> By: Dan http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-3545 Dan Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:20:15 +0000 http://www.godispretend.net/?p=53#comment-3545 How God Likely Began... As a Child... Apparently God Sprang into existence spontaneously "due to random fluctuations in the empty void" which existed before our universe began. No scientific laws conflict with this, or the idea of almost anything occurring in a void with no set properties or rules. A universe of lime Jello would be just as likely to spring up. At the same moment as God, time itself likely also began thus "God has lived forever" works since "forever" began when God did. Space I'm unsure of. BUT... The idea that this new all powerful being of immense intellect would just happen to be all we could wish for, wonderful, kind, benevolent, perfect or even smart, is highly unlikely. The Old Testament bears this out. God's early actions and interaction with his "toy" humans are clearly suggestive of an inexperienced, impatient, rather vengeful male child of about 11 years old with limited concepts of human suffering, pain and death. Existing for millions of years with noone to talk to or teach him adult concepts, even a this vast intellect had to learn from scratch. Many child-like devastating mistakes were made. Such as evolution gone wrong -- starting with the first carnivorous microbes -- then, the horrible violence of animals killing and eating each other -- thus the suffering of billions of creatures throughout history. Or illness and death-- that EVERY Earth organism EVER has died or will have to die to escape this existence. And primitive demands for animal sacrifices and to be worshipped (!). And selfishly demanding blind faith, instead of letting us communicate with and see the higher dimensions, Heaven for example. I truly wish all was perfect instead of this disaster of truth. It is devastating to realize all this. When God he created Jesus, possibly superior to his own design (this is possible), everything changed... No more Old Testament behavior. I wonder if Jesus has taken over control, restricted God from any more mischief and is working toward getting us evacuated from this hideous planet of death? How God Likely Began… As a Child…
Apparently God Sprang into existence spontaneously “due to random fluctuations in the empty void” which existed before our universe began. No scientific laws conflict with this, or the idea of almost anything occurring in a void with no set properties or rules. A universe of lime Jello would be just as likely to spring up. At the same moment as God, time itself likely also began thus “God has lived forever” works since “forever” began when God did. Space I’m unsure of.
BUT… The idea that this new all powerful being of immense intellect would just happen to be all we could wish for, wonderful, kind, benevolent, perfect or even smart, is highly unlikely. The Old Testament bears this out. God’s early actions and interaction with his “toy” humans are clearly suggestive of an inexperienced, impatient, rather vengeful male child of about 11 years old with limited concepts of human suffering, pain and death.
Existing for millions of years with noone to talk to or teach him adult concepts, even a this vast intellect had to learn from scratch. Many child-like devastating mistakes were made. Such as evolution gone wrong — starting with the first carnivorous microbes — then, the horrible violence of animals killing and eating each other — thus the suffering of billions of creatures throughout history. Or illness and death– that EVERY Earth organism EVER has died or will have to die to escape this existence. And primitive demands for animal sacrifices and to be worshipped (!). And selfishly demanding blind faith, instead of letting us communicate with and see the higher dimensions, Heaven for example.
I truly wish all was perfect instead of this disaster of truth. It is devastating to realize all this.
When God he created Jesus, possibly superior to his own design (this is possible), everything changed… No more Old Testament behavior. I wonder if Jesus has taken over control, restricted God from any more mischief and is working toward getting us evacuated from this hideous planet of death?

]]> By: God is Pretend http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-3532 God is Pretend Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:24 +0000 http://www.godispretend.net/?p=53#comment-3532 What does it hurt if someone believes in God? If you've actually read any of these posts, it is very clear what it hurts. The livelihood, privacy, and well being of hundreds of thousands is what it hurts. What I'm doing is not in any way related to how Christians use their faith to attack. The basis of my defense is rooted in logic and reason, not the supernatural and intangible. You imply that my posts do not respect your (or others') right to believe. That is not true. You may believe as you choose. This is a website that you can choose to read or choose to ignore. You chose to read. The day I start knocking on your door to try to spread my message, start preaching disbelief on the street corners, begin handing out leaflets in public arenas, or otherwise bring MY beliefs into your living area, you'll actually have an argument. Until that day, I remain a hub of information and commentary for those who wish to read it. What does it hurt if someone believes in God? If you’ve actually read any of these posts, it is very clear what it hurts. The livelihood, privacy, and well being of hundreds of thousands is what it hurts.

What I’m doing is not in any way related to how Christians use their faith to attack. The basis of my defense is rooted in logic and reason, not the supernatural and intangible.

You imply that my posts do not respect your (or others’) right to believe. That is not true. You may believe as you choose. This is a website that you can choose to read or choose to ignore. You chose to read. The day I start knocking on your door to try to spread my message, start preaching disbelief on the street corners, begin handing out leaflets in public arenas, or otherwise bring MY beliefs into your living area, you’ll actually have an argument. Until that day, I remain a hub of information and commentary for those who wish to read it.

]]> By: Christen Stovall http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-3529 Christen Stovall Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:50:15 +0000 http://www.godispretend.net/?p=53#comment-3529 Why do you feel the need to so vehemently attack the believe system of others. If you choose not to ascribe to it, that's fine, but why must you attack it? Reading these posts, it doesn't seem as though you choose to disbelieve in God, but that you can't stand anyone believing in God.. What does it hurt if someone wants to believe in God? Everyone has something that helps them through the horrors that happen on a daily basis in this world. There are a lot of things people use that cause more damage than that. I don't think it's right when people who claim the Christian faith use it to attack others, but how are you doing anything different here? Isn't this sort of the opposite side of the same coin? I'm not ashamed to say I'm a Christian. I'm sorry if that makes me a backwards murder worshiper in your eyes. I certainly don't see any of you as evil heathens or anything. I respect your choice to disbelief as much as I respect the choice of any believer. The only thing I ask of anyone is the same respect that I would give them, to be left in peace to worship as I choose. I realize this won't change anyones mind here, and honestly, I'm not trying to. I wouldn't have ever even come to this page, but my husband forgot to close the tab when he got of my computer. I figure most of you will jump on this, try to attack and change the backwards Christian. Before you do, read over this again. Not once have I said you were wrong for not believing, not once have I claimed that my belief was the only one with validity. I've really only asked that you respect my beliefs, not as a Christian, but as a person. Why do you feel the need to so vehemently attack the believe system of others. If you choose not to ascribe to it, that’s fine, but why must you attack it? Reading these posts, it doesn’t seem as though you choose to disbelieve in God, but that you can’t stand anyone believing in God..

What does it hurt if someone wants to believe in God? Everyone has something that helps them through the horrors that happen on a daily basis in this world. There are a lot of things people use that cause more damage than that.

I don’t think it’s right when people who claim the Christian faith use it to attack others, but how are you doing anything different here? Isn’t this sort of the opposite side of the same coin?

I’m not ashamed to say I’m a Christian. I’m sorry if that makes me a backwards murder worshiper in your eyes. I certainly don’t see any of you as evil heathens or anything. I respect your choice to disbelief as much as I respect the choice of any believer. The only thing I ask of anyone is the same respect that I would give them, to be left in peace to worship as I choose.

I realize this won’t change anyones mind here, and honestly, I’m not trying to. I wouldn’t have ever even come to this page, but my husband forgot to close the tab when he got of my computer.

I figure most of you will jump on this, try to attack and change the backwards Christian. Before you do, read over this again. Not once have I said you were wrong for not believing, not once have I claimed that my belief was the only one with validity. I’ve really only asked that you respect my beliefs, not as a Christian, but as a person.

]]> By: God is Pretend http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-3495 God is Pretend Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:50:35 +0000 http://www.godispretend.net/?p=53#comment-3495 So the Old Testament becomes entirely stricken from the record? It still comes packaged with the New Testament in almost every Bible I've ever seen, so apparently it still holds some weight. Your comparison to calling today's whites "slave owners" is weak. With this "new covenant" you are suggesting that we forget all of these atrocities ever happened. Slavery happened and should not be forgotten. Thanks for bringing up slavery by the way, because post-sacrifice, there's still plenty of that being tolerated by your magnificent god. Luke 12:45-48: "The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him." So the Old Testament becomes entirely stricken from the record?

It still comes packaged with the New Testament in almost every Bible I’ve ever seen, so apparently it still holds some weight.

Your comparison to calling today’s whites “slave owners” is weak. With this “new covenant” you are suggesting that we forget all of these atrocities ever happened. Slavery happened and should not be forgotten.

Thanks for bringing up slavery by the way, because post-sacrifice, there’s still plenty of that being tolerated by your magnificent god.

Luke 12:45-48: “The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.”

Ephesians 6:5-9: “Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.”

]]> By: Andrew http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-3481 Andrew Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:37:52 +0000 http://www.godispretend.net/?p=53#comment-3481 All of these verses come from the Old Testament with the exception of Genesis, or in other words pre-sacrifice. The New Testament is the relationship that we now have with God thanks to Jesus. This is kinda like calling white people alive today slave owners because we once owned slaves...it's dated and erroneous. All of these verses come from the Old Testament with the exception of Genesis, or in other words pre-sacrifice.

The New Testament is the relationship that we now have with God thanks to Jesus. This is kinda like calling white people alive today slave owners because we once owned slaves…it’s dated and erroneous.

]]> By: DC http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-3446 DC Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:51:06 +0000 http://www.godispretend.net/?p=53#comment-3446 What about all the times that God calls on a hitman to do his dirty work? For example orders Moses to do quite a bit of killing throughout his life. Oh and in Leviticus 8-10 he incinerates Aaron's sons Nadab and Abihu for burning the wrong incense. Talk about petty. What about all the times that God calls on a hitman to do his dirty work? For example orders Moses to do quite a bit of killing throughout his life.

Oh and in Leviticus 8-10 he incinerates Aaron’s sons Nadab and Abihu for burning the wrong incense. Talk about petty.

]]> By: Megan http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-3437 Megan Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:34:03 +0000 http://www.godispretend.net/?p=53#comment-3437 What about all the times that God calls on a hitman to do his dirty work? For example orders Moses to do quite a bit of killing throughout his life. Oh and in Leviticus 8-10 he incinerates Aaron's sons Nadab and Abihu for burning the wrong incense. Talk about petty. What about all the times that God calls on a hitman to do his dirty work? For example orders Moses to do quite a bit of killing throughout his life.

Oh and in Leviticus 8-10 he incinerates Aaron’s sons Nadab and Abihu for burning the wrong incense. Talk about petty.

]]> By: Sarah Trachtenberg http://www.godispretend.net/2009/09/god-is-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-3380 Sarah Trachtenberg Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:20:12 +0000 http://www.godispretend.net/?p=53#comment-3380 Corey, good to see you have another blog post! It's been a while. I've said it before and I'll say it again: god is a cartoonishly evil super villain. It's a shame that theists ignore those parts of the bible that are disturbing. One of my favorite stories is the one in which Lot offers his virgin daughters to be raped by a mob-- and he was supposed to be one of the few good guys! I think there is a similar story later in the bible. Good book, indeed... Corey, good to see you have another blog post! It’s been a while.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: god is a cartoonishly evil super villain. It’s a shame that theists ignore those parts of the bible that are disturbing.
One of my favorite stories is the one in which Lot offers his virgin daughters to be raped by a mob– and he was supposed to be one of the few good guys! I think there is a similar story later in the bible.
Good book, indeed…

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