Comments on: Who needs doctors?

By: Rick

Rick — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:19:00 +0000

The way I see it, religion was a basic form of law, way back in man’s starting centuries, when early humans could not afford to rehabilitate criminals. It’s “Don’t do this or you burn in a fire for the rest of eternity”. Most religious beliefs do have a seed of truth or reason behind them. For example, crustaceans are typically high in cholesterol, which isn’t healthy in large amounts, and they are forbidden according to the Torah. However, religion is not written into the human genome directly. It’s more of an indirect solution. Humans are some of the few creatures that pass down huge amounts of information through memory, in addition of genes. This allows humans to advance at a rapid pace, but is also fairly risky if humans are solitary, since amazing new technology can be lost if everyone who knew it died. Therefore, it is written into our genes to be very social. In order to be social, you need a society, but to found a society, you need order. The first form of this order came from religion, which made order, and grouped people together. It also helped speed things along when humans couldn’t bother with unnecessary research, such as how the sun shines. When humans began to ask “Why is the sky blue?” you could just say “God made it that way, now get back to work”. It didn’t answer the question, but it got the job done. Now that we have the resources, time, and organized law to do all that, we don’t need religion. However, since we have been relying on religion since our foundations, some people have trouble letting go, since that is what their ancestors many generations up believed. Now, as opposed to saving time, it’s wasting time, and we should shed religion soon, even if it’s just for efficiency.

By: james

james — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:28:50 +0000

Religion was an evolutionary advantage in many ways.
it gave society law
it allowed for ritual… that would have reduced the variables in a given task making them repeatable even not knowing the reason. It is why we have a strong tendency toward superstition. It is in our genes. We only test the various when we can afford to.
It is easy for us to turn to science now, a test the small details of a process. To say even though we didn’t do a rain dance it still rained. Our livelihoods don’t depend on it.
We still use that instinct just in a different way
science is our God — the one to give us answers
scientific method our ritual
hypothesis our prayer
I defiantly agree the less educated have higher birth rate. Or the less willing to be educated in developed nations. It really makes you wonder

By: TheDentist

TheDentist — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:54:27 +0000

to correct myself the seccond should read less educated = more religious. I try to get all mathmatical and see what happens?

By: TheDentist

TheDentist — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:53:25 +0000

To Bradnon - Great point! I never really considered the evolutionary impact of religion, but you are absolutely right! Or flip it around, less educated = higher birth rate AND less educated = higher birthrate that sets us in the old DEevolution, wherein the world will only get dumer and more religious. Great. All this won’t matter at all when the machines take over though. Just stumbled on a machine that can replicate itself. We are doomed. Everyone pick a religion and embrace it in this, our final hour!

By: B-Dog

B-Dog — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:18:35 +0000

Yeah, prayer is dumb.

But I can’t say I agree with those saying that it’s no longer necessary for our evolution. Once you take that path, you sort of anthropomorphize a mechanism. Evolution doesn’t have a path. It doesn’t choose anything. It’s just a flowing process of small, sometimes useful changes. With that in mind, you can hardly claim that anything is, in fact, unnecessary. To say so is to say you know where evolution is going, and you don’t. It would be impossible to know. Something insignificant today could mean survival for the next generation.

Still, prayer is silly. Don’t do it; it’s a waste of time.

By: Anon

Anon — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:59:08 +0000

I agree with Dubs.

At one time it did serve a purpose, and arose because of the evolutionary trait of imagination. It helped humans band together.

It is no longer necessary.

By: Dubs

Dubs — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:13:02 +0000

Ironic that you would call it an evolutionary advantage when fundamentalists oppose evolution so strongly.

The one advantage I can see it having is it kept people alive (because anyone saying otherwise was put to death in rather creative fashions). And while it may have served a purpose in the past, it is now a useless, even detrimental evolutionary product (if it has evolutionary roots at all - to be honest I’ve never thought of it that way).

Nowadays I use religion to help pick out the gullible people.

By: Brandon M. Sergent

Brandon M. Sergent — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:17:14 +0000

Careful with that thinking, Religion obviously conveys a survival advantage else it would have bred out long ago.

They breed like deranged roaches in heat, far faster then the occasional negligence related death.

After all, these people survived through small pox, the black plague, and consumption.

We do NOT want nature to take its course in the strict Darwinian sense.

The only viable answer is augmentation, and it has already begun. Clearly greed and ambition survive in spite of this parasitic meme. Take advantage of that.

By: Anymoose

Anymoose — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:20:13 +0000

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Opting for prayer in lieu of modern medical treatment will thin the population of Christian fundamentalists. Since forcible sterilization is unlawful as well as unethical, I say let nature run its course.